5 thoughts on “Royal Cinclodes (Cinclodes aricomae)”
Los datos de Royal cinclodes son insuficeintes para tomar una decicion en su categorizacion , personalmente en varias areas de los andes de Peru hemos realizado el seguimiento . es asi que desde el 2000 en la asociacion Ecosistamas Andinos – ECOAN se realizado varios expediciones en la cordillera del Vilcanota , Cordillera de Vilcabamba y Apurimac, y otras areas donde se registro un monitoreo teniendo una poblacion muy restrigida.
a partir del año 2002 ECOAN comenzo a trabajar en la conservacion de los bosques de Polylepis en la parte central de la cordillera del Vilcanota-Urubamba con dibersos trabajos y estrategias de conservacion conjuntamente con nuestros aliados que son las comuniadades , y 20 años despues la poblacion de royal cinclodes se muestra un ahuemnto en la poblacion , sin embarogo eso no sucede en areas donde no se realizan los trabajos de conservacion y por ende la poblacion es minima , como en el caso en AYACUCHO en el sector de Usmay se vio solo una pareja y lo mismo en otras areas.
Seria bueno primero no considerar en forma general de areas en conservacion donde si se mantiene la poblacion con liegeras incrementos a lugares donde no es area de conservacion y la poblacion es minima, por lo que es un riesgo considerar en forma general y eso puede ser un peligro para la especie.
Saludos
Many thanks to everyone who has contributed to this discussion. We greatly appreciate the time and effort invested in commenting. The window for consultation is now closed and we are unable to accept any more comments until 25 April 2025. We will now analyse and interpret the information, and we will post a preliminary decision on this species’ Red List category on this page on 25 April 2025, when discussions will re-open.
We thank G. Ferro Meza for their helpful comment above. All relevant information will be incorporated into the updated Red List assessment for this species.
While the species remains poorly known, the available data are not thought to be inadequate to determine a threat category. To be listed as Data Deficient the data must be so uncertain that both Critically Endangered and Least Concern are plausible scenarios, which is not thought to be the case here. This species is clearly very scarce, and the estimated population size falls below the threshold for Endangered under Criterion D. Based on available information, our preliminary proposal for the 2025 Red List would be to adopt the proposed classification outlined in the initial forum discussion.
There is now a period for further comments until the final deadline on 4 May 2025, after which the recommended categorisations will be put forward to IUCN.
The final 2025 Red List categories will be published on the BirdLife and IUCN websites in October 2025, following further checking of information relevant to the assessments by both BirdLife and IUCN.
Dear friends, thanks for sharing this with me, sorry for non answering as soon that was possible, but I am leadering a large scaling Program of restoration of Polylepis trees along all the High Andes (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Chile, Bolivia and Argentina). I have been in Bolivia three days ago and talking with Rodrigo Soria from Armonia, he highly tells me that didn’t exist more reports from teh field and the population at Apolo Mountains are under a bigger risk and the 50 ones no body is monitoring about the existence of them, even our program are not planting any trees there because is so expensive to move in that direccion. In Peru about my report at Huaytapallana Mountains , I am so sad to tell you that probably the entire population will desapear, because e terrible local costume called “Pagapus” on the last 10 years are destroying every thing around the area where I reported 06 individuals, I been with near 08 people looking for them but I saw just one breffely, because any remaining moss is covering the rocks where those birds use to feed. What Don Gregorio Ferro is pointing is true because we can confirm onle the ones that are in our protected areas or near where we are planting millions of Polylepis trees, to restore those habitats and secure the water. But my experience tells me that to recover the moss will take near 30 years and recently those birds can feel more food and increase the populations, this happened at Abra Malaga that after 25 years we saw 04 individuals more, and ECOAN and Accion Andina are working hardly with the restoration programa, and also fencing, controlling the annual fires, having agreements with the locals to control the overgrazing, corrupted goverments are giving mining consecions to destroy those mountains and that will be the main problem in teh future: Ilegal and legal mining, etc. Like you can see we are talking about the most threatened birds. Me and my donnors and partners, we are working hardly with real and concrete action on the ground, not only with this specie we also are covering many other species and habitats.
Many thanks to everyone who has contributed to this discussion. We greatly appreciate the time and effort invested in commenting. The window for consultation is now closed and we are unable to accept any more comments. We will analyse and interpret the information, and a final decision on this species’ Red List category will be posted on this page on 12 May 2025.
Los datos de Royal cinclodes son insuficeintes para tomar una decicion en su categorizacion , personalmente en varias areas de los andes de Peru hemos realizado el seguimiento . es asi que desde el 2000 en la asociacion Ecosistamas Andinos – ECOAN se realizado varios expediciones en la cordillera del Vilcanota , Cordillera de Vilcabamba y Apurimac, y otras areas donde se registro un monitoreo teniendo una poblacion muy restrigida.
a partir del año 2002 ECOAN comenzo a trabajar en la conservacion de los bosques de Polylepis en la parte central de la cordillera del Vilcanota-Urubamba con dibersos trabajos y estrategias de conservacion conjuntamente con nuestros aliados que son las comuniadades , y 20 años despues la poblacion de royal cinclodes se muestra un ahuemnto en la poblacion , sin embarogo eso no sucede en areas donde no se realizan los trabajos de conservacion y por ende la poblacion es minima , como en el caso en AYACUCHO en el sector de Usmay se vio solo una pareja y lo mismo en otras areas.
Seria bueno primero no considerar en forma general de areas en conservacion donde si se mantiene la poblacion con liegeras incrementos a lugares donde no es area de conservacion y la poblacion es minima, por lo que es un riesgo considerar en forma general y eso puede ser un peligro para la especie.
Saludos
Many thanks to everyone who has contributed to this discussion. We greatly appreciate the time and effort invested in commenting. The window for consultation is now closed and we are unable to accept any more comments until 25 April 2025. We will now analyse and interpret the information, and we will post a preliminary decision on this species’ Red List category on this page on 25 April 2025, when discussions will re-open.
Preliminary proposal
We thank G. Ferro Meza for their helpful comment above. All relevant information will be incorporated into the updated Red List assessment for this species.
While the species remains poorly known, the available data are not thought to be inadequate to determine a threat category. To be listed as Data Deficient the data must be so uncertain that both Critically Endangered and Least Concern are plausible scenarios, which is not thought to be the case here. This species is clearly very scarce, and the estimated population size falls below the threshold for Endangered under Criterion D. Based on available information, our preliminary proposal for the 2025 Red List would be to adopt the proposed classification outlined in the initial forum discussion.
There is now a period for further comments until the final deadline on 4 May 2025, after which the recommended categorisations will be put forward to IUCN.
The final 2025 Red List categories will be published on the BirdLife and IUCN websites in October 2025, following further checking of information relevant to the assessments by both BirdLife and IUCN.
Dear friends, thanks for sharing this with me, sorry for non answering as soon that was possible, but I am leadering a large scaling Program of restoration of Polylepis trees along all the High Andes (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Chile, Bolivia and Argentina). I have been in Bolivia three days ago and talking with Rodrigo Soria from Armonia, he highly tells me that didn’t exist more reports from teh field and the population at Apolo Mountains are under a bigger risk and the 50 ones no body is monitoring about the existence of them, even our program are not planting any trees there because is so expensive to move in that direccion. In Peru about my report at Huaytapallana Mountains , I am so sad to tell you that probably the entire population will desapear, because e terrible local costume called “Pagapus” on the last 10 years are destroying every thing around the area where I reported 06 individuals, I been with near 08 people looking for them but I saw just one breffely, because any remaining moss is covering the rocks where those birds use to feed. What Don Gregorio Ferro is pointing is true because we can confirm onle the ones that are in our protected areas or near where we are planting millions of Polylepis trees, to restore those habitats and secure the water. But my experience tells me that to recover the moss will take near 30 years and recently those birds can feel more food and increase the populations, this happened at Abra Malaga that after 25 years we saw 04 individuals more, and ECOAN and Accion Andina are working hardly with the restoration programa, and also fencing, controlling the annual fires, having agreements with the locals to control the overgrazing, corrupted goverments are giving mining consecions to destroy those mountains and that will be the main problem in teh future: Ilegal and legal mining, etc. Like you can see we are talking about the most threatened birds. Me and my donnors and partners, we are working hardly with real and concrete action on the ground, not only with this specie we also are covering many other species and habitats.
Many thanks to everyone who has contributed to this discussion. We greatly appreciate the time and effort invested in commenting. The window for consultation is now closed and we are unable to accept any more comments. We will analyse and interpret the information, and a final decision on this species’ Red List category will be posted on this page on 12 May 2025.